Atari creator: Xbox 720 will beat the PlayStation 4

Atari founder, and one of the Godfathers of gaming, Nolan Bushnell, says that he’s betting on Microsoft to win the next-gen battle and beat the PlayStation 4. Bushnell thinks so because he believes that Microsoft’s software development tools are easier to use than Sony’s — even though most developers are yet to see either the PlayStation 4′s or the Xbox 720 software tools. Bushnell said:

“I personally believe Microsoft is in a superior position, and the reason is Sony, whenever they change consoles, the software tools that they have are lame”

Bushnell PlayStation 4He added that in the past, a lot of the PlayStation documentation and software was in Japanese and not well structured, which made the consoles a pain to develop for.

While Bushnell’s quotes may be accurate in the past — the PS3 was by far the most difficult console to develop for — Sony has taken in this sort of criticism and feedback from developers when making the PlayStation 4. Not only is it based on much simpler hardware architecture, Sony has created easier tools and APIs for developers to use, according to the game makers themselves.

Bushnell had more harsh words for Sony, saying that the company needs to “get their action together” and fix their online infrastructure which he deems “god awful”.

With the exception of Bushnell, all developers so far have been positive about creating games on the PlayStation 4. We’re not sure if Bushnell has access to the PlayStation 4 development kit, as he hasn’t been directly involved in the video game business for many years. But occasionally, he pops up seemingly out of nowhere and shares his “opinions”.

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  • RonaldRayguns

    He’s obviously a troll

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  • The Clockwork Being

    he was in gaming in the 1980
    stopped in 1983
    when his company got destroyed by Sega and Nintendo
    so he was absent in the gaming industry for 30 years and thinks he can comment on the giants that are Nintendo and Playstation. He is just going for Xbox because it is american
    ”While Bushnell’s quotes may be accurate in the past — the PS3 was by far the most difficult console to develop for — Sony has taken in this sort of criticism and feedback from developers when making the PlayStation 4. Not only is it based on much simpler hardware architecture, Sony has created easier tools and APIs for developers to use, according to the game makers themselves”
    WTF this guy is a dumb american

    PS3 was difficult to develop but once the companies got the hang of it PS3 outsold Xbox

    it was only a matter of time. Now that PS4 is technically more a PC developers will just have to develop like they develop a

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    • The Clockwork Being

      this guy said that Wii would be a failure and that Nintendo wouldnt sell alot with it
      he also mention that gaming is going in the wrong direction with all the PS3, Xbox and Wii U

      Edit:Nintendo Entertainment System – 61.91 million (Japan: 19.35 million, Americas: 34.00 million, Other: 8.56 million)
      Sega Master System – 11.8 million[9][10] (Japan: 1 million,[11] United States: 2 million,[12] Western Europe: 6.8 million,[13] Brazil: 2 million[14])
      Atari 7800 – 3.77 million[15] (United States: 2 million Other: 1.77 million [16])
      Nintendo, japanese
      sega japanese
      Atari is american Wtf
      2 japanese companies destroyed you in that console wars

      THERE IS A REASON THIS GUY FAILED IN GAMING

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      • Karyyk

        Just for the record, Bushnell had sold off his part in Atari years before the 7800 would see release. In fact, by that point Atari was being ran by the Tramiels (of Commodore “fame”) who purposely didn’t release the 7800 until years too late because they were convinced the home console market was finished after the crash. They also turned down an offer from Nintendo to release the NES stateside. Personally, I think Bushnell is talking out of his keister, but your point here is invalid. The VCS/2600 is Bushnell’s legacy, and that’s hardly a failure in gaming.

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    • routerbad

      PS3 still has not outsold xbox in any region other than Japan. XBOX still has higher total sales. Wii makes them both look silly. PS4 may technically be a PC hardware wise, but the tools are still proprietary, and will be based on a modified form of OpenGL. XBOX will be able to utilize both DirectX and OpenGL API’s the same way windows does, though will probably see better performance with native directx titles.

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      • youdoneyo69

        “PS3 still has not outsold xbox in any region other than Japan. XBOX still has higher total sales.”

        If you go to VGZchartz.com the PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 in Japan and in Europe. The PS3 is only Million units behind Xbox and the PS3 was released a year later. If you take that year head start away from M$ the PS3 would be in the lead.

        “XBOX will be able to utilize both DirectX and OpenGL API’s the same way windows does, though will probably see better performance with native directx titles.”

        Seeing as M$ hasn’t announced ANYTHING about their next console so nobody knows anything about it so don’t say what it’ll do or utilize etc.

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        • routerbad

          The numbers have changed a bit since the last time I looked at them, no big. So add europe to the list. Doesn’t change the point, PS3 still has not outsold XBOX. Now, onto the other thing.

          This is one bit of information that absolutely no one needs confirmed to know to be accurate. Microsoft WILL be using their proprietary API, you know, the one the console is named after, as a primary development API. It will also support OpenGL, as does Windows and every other platform since ever.

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          • Right Hook

            In 2009 it was estimated that RRoD failure rate was as high as 54.2%. How many of those failures, at times repeated, resulted in people buying a replacement 360?

            This
            means out of the 75.9 million 360s sold worldwide at least 41.138
            MILLION consoles failed. I betcha that’s where your 1 million
            difference comes from.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars

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          • routerbad

            You’re building a weak strawman to make an acillary point. I don’t care what motivated the sales, the fact still remains that as of now, the PS3 has not outsold the 360.

            However, applying the failure rate from one year to the entire seven years of 360 sales is cherry picking for the purposes of confirmation bias. PS3 had YLOD issues as well, though not as widespread. Also, Microsoft expanded their manufacturer warranty for the first three years and refurbished or replaced defective consoles for free, these don’t count as console sales.

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          • youdoneyo69

            Like I said if you take away the year head start the Xbox wouldn’t be 1 million ahead. The fact that the Xbox is only ahead by 1 million units with a year head start and twice the units sold in the US says enough for Sony. Just because the Xbox is ahead in total sales doesn’t mean anything…if you take away the year head start from them the PS3 has sold more per month than the Xbox has.

            On the topic of failure rate every friend I have known with a Xbox has had a RRoD one friend 5 times so far….My friends with PS3 haven’t had a problem.

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          • routerbad

            That is completely speculative, just like your last comment, and still doesn’t even approach the larger point. As far as your anecdotal evidence of 360 failures, I’ve had the same 360 since launch weekend, as well as another for the living room since the HDMI model came out, neither have had red rings. My friends have all had their 360s since launch as well with no issues.

            I personally have had to send in my PS3 twice for YLOD. This, of course, doesn’t prove anything, and the numbers are there for anyone interested.

            Or you could, you know, argue the main point if you have an actual point to make, rather than trying to rebuild the same strawman over and over.

            The fact that the xbox is ahead in total sales means everything to the point that was made, because regardless of where the sales came from, they are still ahead. And you need to find cleaner friends, or friends with furniture, putting electronics on the floor is bad joo joo. (see what assumptions based on limited evidence does?)

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  • The Unknown Legacy

    anyone else lolled?

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  • Cerus98

    He’s like Patcher but 100x more pathetic. There isn’t even a confirmation that MS is working on a new console to release anytime soon. Opinions based on assumptions, funny stuff.

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    • The Clockwork Being

      Plus this guy cant talk he failed gaming 30 years ago.

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    • Michael Pachter

      I agree with you completely.

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    • Levi Johansen

      Yeah, how can he know that the Xbox will be easier to develop for than the PS4 when it’s not even out yet? This is so ridicolus!

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      • routerbad

        Fairly easily, XBOX will be running a Windows8 kernel and will utilize the complete DirectX API. The same API used for PC development. Just having x86 doesn’t do anything to simplify development if your tools suck, Microsoft has the best tools in the business. That said, I still believe Wii U will be the most transformative console, the PS4 will be the most powerful, despite how insignificant the actual in game visual improvements are in a game environment locked at 1080p.

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        • Levi Johansen

          Sounds reasonable.

          These things usually only matters for indy developers though, and they are more interested in the Wii U because of the eShop being so convenient with patches and setting your own prices and so on and of course the Miiverse which is available for free for everyone who makes a Wii U game.

          If Sony and Microsoft doesn’t do something similar they will lose alot of the indy developers, but they might anyway because of the gamepad.

          The big developers will make most their games for ALL platform nomatter how expensive and how difficult it is, just like they overcame the difficulty of the PS3, they will overcome the difficulty of the PS4 – especially since it’s far easier than the PS3.

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          • routerbad

            Microsoft will have issues attracting indie devs, not because of the API’s but the restrictions on releasing, patching,etc and the higher costs associated with Live titles. Nintendo is giving out free dev kits with Unity licenses to some indie devs, and I expect Sony is doing something similar. Both will try to attract indies as much as possible, and I wish them both the best of luck, because that’s where the trans-formative gaming experiences will be created.

            I agree MiiVerse is a unique and innovative selling point to developers, it puts them in touch with their fans in a way never before seen, and allows them to share news, interact with fans, address concerns, etc.

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  • Guest

    I bet it will beat Nintendo not PS4 though.

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    • lonewolf88

      not if nintendos plan for getting pc games like guns of icarus succeeds oh haven’t heard nintendos true intentions? yeah this news site didn’t post it….. oh and! best part its not even play able on the ps4 just because of the controller sorry bud said by 2 indie pc devs already that its impossible with normal controllers. but the gamepad opens so much you don’t even know it yet. but you will find out when battle world kronos and guns of icarus adventure mode come to wii U but by then it will already be to late for you :)

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      • Guest

        LOL. Any good PC game would look like shit on the Wii U and 98% of indie games suck. The gamepad sucks no offense but its really bad, it would be good if it was 100% accurate but its not. You’ll need to tap the screen for health and oh what! it didn’t read my finger tapping the stupid screen and now im dead… no offense. It should also have double touch and backlight buttons.

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        • lonewolf88

          if u haven’t played guns of icarus then you should keep ur mouth closed its amazing and ive never had any problems at all with the screen do you even own a wiiu no no you don’t…. and games like gw2 dont have amazing graphics or anything cloe to that i can play it on my note book laptop lmao u = fail

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          • Guest

            I do have a Wii U thats how I know that about the gamepad. I don’t think those kid icarus games look fun at all.

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          • lonewolf88

            omg are you mentally retarded look up the game [ GUNS OF ICARUS] its not made by nintendo don’t act like you know stuff when you can’t search a simple name lol and don’t talk to me about touch screen i could ask everyone and they’ve had no problems so its either 1 ur lying or 2 u broke it…..

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          • Guest

            I looked it up and I would rather play kid icarus lol. That game looks so boring, my god. What anyone would possibly see in that game is beyond me.

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          • routerbad

            It’s airship combat in a steampunk universe. It’s an outstanding concept and a fun game.

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          • lonewolf88

            well alot i mean alot of people play it it my just be your fan boy telling you don’t like it :/

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          • NintendoNoob

            then you either have brain damage and don’t know what fun is or you’re just a Sony/Microsoft/PC fanboy who just said they have the Wii U and hate everything about it.

            Sure Wii U has some problems here and there but it is still a great console, most of the problems are OS related so they will be fixed soon. Ps4 and PC will be great gaming systems that will have their own strengths and weaknesess.

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          • routerbad

            Guns of Icarus, not Kid Icarus. Guns of Icarus is a PC only title. They are looking into getting a Wii U dev kit and porting it there from PC.

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        • NintendoNoob

          Seems like you’re one of those people who think if it does not have the latest technology, it’s bad

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          • Guest

            Not at all the top 6 games i had the most fun playing at the time i played them in no particular order Super Metroid, Fallout 3, Skyrim, Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye.

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          • lonewolf88

            i hope you know theres rumors of skyrim online a pc only game that might be coming to wii U and again its not playable without a touchpad this is the nintendos true plan to get games that are impossible to go to 720 and ps4 no matter how powerful they are.. and what happens when pc gamers see games that were only pc on the wii U? wii U has evolved gaming you should be happy nintendo has just built the bridge to pc games on consoles and this is why games are failing the wii U was not designed for games like dues x human revolution but was made for the path to getting games that were only pc this is where devs like ubisoft and EA fail even know there great games if you wanted a good game make a online rpg wii U only title that uses the full power of the controller and how its suppost to be used this is why nintendo is getting devs that make pc only games for the reason is sooner or later companys like blizzard, jagex,mojange, ect will see them actually mojange and jagex have already taken notice as the main dev of jagex said that its very likely to see there game “runescape” on there console when it goes to html 5
            yes wii U runs html 5
            the game called runescape updates to html5 this year……
            if jagex does this blizzard will take notice since there rivals
            no matter what you say this is all true and this is nintendos true plan…..

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          • Guest

            Its not going to wii u, you just made that up.

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          • NintendoNoob

            Oh so you’re a Nintendo personnel who knows every game coming to Wii U in 2 years? I see, so tell me this… When will Wind Waker U come out? When will Zelda Wii U come out? When will Yoshi’s Yarn come out? When will Mario Kart U come out? When will Mario 3d Wii U come out? Huh? Answer it, HUH? HUH!?

            Thought so

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          • lonewolf88

            dude you are stupid you probably only get ur news from wii U daily and that site has been called a “troll site” for the longest time from all the other sites lmao maybe you should start looking information up on other websites because right now you sound like a idiot…… don’t believe its a troll site why don’t they ban trolls then that just post comments that says wii U sucks without anything backing them up to actually say it sucks? and those doom articles that no one else has helps the trolls there just trashing the community this is true if you say its not then your a troll urself not everyone is bad but everyone whos good knows that this is true…

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          • Ace J

            yeah wii u daily is a troll site lol iam not even gonna lie

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          • greengecko007

            It’s The Elder Scrolls online, not Skyrim online. It’s a PC MMO, and there is nothing the developers have said that even remotely hints toward console releases, especially Wii U. It’s not a rumor just because you fabricated it.

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          • lonewolf88

            lol dude believe what you want i don’t really care but when games like rs, wow and guild wars come to wii U don’t go crying about it…

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          • greengecko007

            Irrelevant. I never said anything about RS, WOW, or Guild Wars. My comment was specifically about Elder Scrolls Online, and how you obviously know nothing about it.

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          • lonewolf88

            lol dude again believe what you want i really don’t care ill just have fun playing all the games i said this year and the next…

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        • Michael Pachter

          Then what about the touchpad on the PS4 controller?

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          • Guest

            It looks great in my opinion. All they did was is instead of having only start and select theres now as many options are there as different shapes you can draw, a circle to save, playing an rpg a triangle for a specific attack, square for another, an M, line, W, U,N,L,S for different attacks as well and the touchpad has super high resolution for more accurate inputs.

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          • NintendoNoob

            Yeah, try drawing a circle on a one inch screen. With Wii U you can draw complete pictures on it. Have you seen the Miiverse drawings? NO YOU HAVE NOT!

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          • lonewolf88

            yup such as putting a action bar on the gamepad would work perfectly fine thats why jagex said we will see after rs 3 since the action bar will be much more flex able in the way of putting it where ever you want

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          • lonewolf88

            lol dude thats going to be so stupid lol plus the whole thing of why u can’t is because do you really think you can see and accurately click a hot bar on a touch pad without a screen the touch pad will probably flip threw menus like the vitas did so yeah but again believe what ever you want but when you can’t play games like battle world kronos don’t be crying to me how you only buy sony consoles

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          • lonewolf88

            again its impossible already said by 3 devs again i don’t really care if you don’t believe it because when guns of icarus and battle world kronos and cross code and! bloom memorys so what ever tho you can be deceived by this troll site :/

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          • lonewolf88

            yeah like thats going to work really well i can see play and moving buildings in games play battle world kronos…. not lol again now 4 devs pc devs have said there games are coming to wii U pc only games that ps4 again will never ever be able to get without a touch screen not a pad a screen but like i tell everyone believe what you want but don’t be mad when none of the games i listed go to ps4 but go to wii U

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        • Levi Johansen

          You have obviously never played on the gamepad!

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        • Ace J

          you obviously havnt seen Ghost Recon Online. or Need For Speed Most Wanted U? hell i can tell you havnt even played a wii u. the touch screen is very accurate.

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  • Ducked

    Beat out PS4? Xbox will be lucky if then can survive this generation period. Oh wait, this guy hasn’t done games since the 80′s. This guy just doesn’t like Japanese game consoles.

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    • Levi Johansen

      I agree, especially now that it seems the new Xbox requires an internet connection at all times. If this is true, the battle is over and Nintendo and Sony has won.

      Nintendo and Sony will not destroy each other, they are so different that there is room for both, the battle has allways been between Sony and Microsoft because they offer pretty much the same.

      So the industry will be ruled only by japanese companies! Maybe…

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      • Ducked

        I totally agree with you. And if the next xbox won’t allow pre-owned games, then there crushed on that too.

        It just seems Japan is the king of video games. I just can’t like Nintendo more then Sony, or Sony more then Nintendo because there two very different game companies.

        I do think the PS4 will be winning the 8th Gen in all honesty.

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        • Levi Johansen

          I think Sony might sell more consoles, but I think Wii U owners will buy more games than PS4 owners, so Nintendo might still make more money

          Xbox will probably sell the fewest consoles with the fewest games per console.

          .

          Of course, it is quite early to predict yet, as only the Wii U is available.

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          • Ducked

            Very true. I think its safe to say that the PS4 could be a favorite as of right now. But like you said, only the Wii U is out right now, so anything can happen.

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  • NintendoNoob

    Rubbish, this guy is a bad influence, if he was good, why did Atari fail? Huh? HUH!?

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  • Michael Pachter

    Please leave the bogus, unrealistic predictions to me. You clearly haven’t been fail predicting as long as I have.

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  • Dominic Coradazzi

    *facepalm*

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  • Ace J

    i will choose playstation over xbox anyday

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  • http://www.facebook.com/Fennador Matthew Childers

    That comment wasn’t Xenophobic at all!!! The man hasn’t had anything to do with games in years and has no idea what is going on in the industry.

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  • JuzBlaze92

    What an idiot, thinks he know everything? I’ll listen to todays developers, not an oldies, even if he is the “godfather of gaming”.

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